Mercato 2017

Splošna debata o prestopih igralcev v Milan.

Re: Mercato 2017

OdgovorNapisal/-a Alberto Paloschi dne 19. jun 2017 10:48

Transparent je letel na Raiolo, ne na njega. "Ne sprejemamo izsiljevanja. Kar tako naprej AC Milan." Zdaj pa Raiola pravi, da bi mogli to odstranit, ker je bil Donnarumma užaljen zaradi tega? :worthy
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Re: Mercato 2017

OdgovorNapisal/-a taura dne 19. jun 2017 14:39

#TS: #Tare will be in #Milano on Wednesday to close #Biglia deal with #Fassone, the deal will closed for 19m bonuses included.

Glede na to da Dani Alves zapušča Juventus, je ponovno veliko govora o De Scigliu. Juve nam ponuja 10m€, mi želimo 20.

Bild (en najbolj zanesljivih virov v Nemčiji) piše da je Leno pripravljen zapustit Bayer Leverkusen in da se za njega resno zanimamo. Odkupne klavzule nima (mu je potekla prejšnjo sezono), ocenjen je na 25m€.

Fassone je danes komentiral včerjašnje izjave Raiole in dejal da Gigio sigurno ostaja v Milanu razen če kdo ne plača njegove realne vrednosti. Raioli pa je dal tudi nov rok če se premislita in se odločita da podaljšata pogodbo - 3. julij.

Deulofeu bo kot kaže odkupljen s strani Barce, mislim da bo danes uradno (cena 12m€).

Genoa's sporting director: "Unless there is a stunning turnaround between Milan and Donnarumma, we could close a deal for Perin this week."

Kar je imel včeraj Raiola za povedat:
Raiola: "Milan lost Donnarumma. We were threatened. I take responsibility for the choice."
Raiola: "The situation became to violent and hostile in which you couldn't escape from."
Raiola: "Donnarumma and his family were threatened. Threatened to not play as well as death threats."
Raiola: "I have no feeling with Mirabelli. What was done is close to bullying, the boy was threatened [by Milan]."
Raiola: "It was handled all wrong, maybe I was in the wrong, but there are no agreements with any other clubs."
Raiola: "Real Madrid? I haven't spoken to and have to agreements with other clubs. It won't be done anytime soon."
Raiola: "Donnarumma has had offers from clubs since he was 14 years old. If he wanted to leave it would have been done sooner."
Raiola: "Donnarumma was threatened and he told me 'I don't want to deal in this manner, there's a risk I lose a year.'"
Raiola: "Money? It was never a problem. We never even talked about it, there was no serenity. We didn't even talk about adding a clause."
Raiola: "When you start talking about a clause it means that you are 90% done negotiating a contract. We didn't get there."
Raiola to Sky: "In Donnarumma's head there were no doubts: he wanted to renew with Milan. I said we wouldn't leave for free."
Raiola: "We were forced. I do not feel the need to accept proposals in this environment, it was threatening."
Raiola: "I take 100% responsibility for not renewing. Me and Mirabelli are on 2 different planets: I don't agree and accept his behaviour."
Raiola: "We have no agreement with anyone and we haven't spoke to anyone and we certainly won't do it in short time."
Raiola: "What has happened so far is, or is very close to being known as mobbing."
Raiola to RAI: "Reopen talks? I have no war with Milan and no problems with Fassone, but I don't see how the situation can change now."

Raiola with another interview, but this time with Gazzetta dello Sport!
Raiola: "I take all the blame, but please leave Donnarumma alone. His family has even received death threats. It's incredible."
Raiola: "I was wrong not to stop this infernal machine right away. Why all the hurry? Why so much pressure?"
Raiola: "With that hammering we could not say yes. 50 million for 5 years? There were no presumptions for an agreement."
Raiola: "We had asked for time and discretion to leave Gigio serene. Milan informed the press of every move. The results are there to see."
Raiola: "Do the Milanisti have it against me? I am used to it. Unfortunately, something else happened instead."
Raiola: "A small part of the fans came up against Donnarumma and the club did nothing to protect him."
Raiola: "The banner under Casa Milan has not been removed, as there has never been expressed solidarity. And now Gigio is sad."
Raiola: "Contested with the national team? I hope at least that the Federation will protect him."
Raiola: "We are already organizing a security service. It is up to us to think about it in general disinterest. Its absurd."
Raiola: "Gigio was initially convinced to stay. He chose Milan at 14 years old despite his family's upset about the sale of his brother."
Raiola: "Gigio was struck by Mirabelli's phrase 'If you don't sign, you go to the stands'."
Raiola: "Let's see what happens, but there's a sting of mobbing."
Raiola turns into a poet: "It is better to die while standing on your feet, then live while being down on your knees."
Raiola: "If we have an agreement with Real Madrid? Absolutely not. And to go to Real we don't need Galliani."
Raiola: "There are many teams interested in Donnarumma, just like when he was 16 and he preferred Milan."
Raiola: "Why did not we renew while still with Galliani? Milan had been selling the club for two years with three different buyers."
Raiola: "So already a year ago I refused the dialogue with Galliani, and he respected me."
Raiola: "It was my duty to take time because there was little clarity about the fate of the club."
Raiola: "Galliani and I agree? I'm his friend out of football, but in business we have often clashed, because he is too much of a fan."
Raiola: "The other day Galliani called me after the break up, he wanted to help bring the serenity back, but I abruptly told him no."
Raiola: "Have I never trusted the new owners? I still don't trust them, just like they dont trust me."
Raiola: "If Milan is owned by Elliott or Mister Li? Let's say I have a good relationship with Marco Fassone."
Raiola: "I've known him [Fassone] for a long time and he knows he can count on me, even though I don't need to explain why."
Raiola: "What didn't work in the past weeks? There were still four games left of the season, and Mirabelli already began to stress Gigio."
Raiola: "There was a time when the lad avoided him [Mirabelli] at Milanello. They treated him as an asset, not like a bandiera."
Raiola: "Did I not click with Mirabelli? I do not talk about the person, but only his methods."
Raiola: "For example, no one notices that Conti has threatened to not show up to training retreat just to say yes to the Rossoneri."
Raiola: "Gigio, however, has never been in this place. He has never had any economic demands."
Raiola: "And then if you have a top player in your club like Gigio, why do you go and offer double or triple for Morata or Aubameyang?"
Raiola: "It makes no sense."
Raiola: "Gigio is only 18 years old, though. What do you want me to say? Real has purchased a 16-year-old Brazilian, Vinicius, for €45M."
Raiola: "Quality does not have an age."
Raiola: "Are Juve in the running to sign Donnarumma? I did not talk with Gigio. I do not open the door to anybody."
Raiola: "Marotta has to speak with Milan, but I think Gigio, out of respect for Milan, does not have Juve in his mind."
Raiola: "How much is Donnarumma worth? Priceless. And either way it has to do with Milan."
Raiola: "He [Donnarumma] is stronger than Buffon in perspective and can win more Ballon d'Ors. But in 30 years a stronger one will be born."
Raiola: "Release clause? We've never been serious about it. Milan made a €200M mark."
Raiola: " I answered with €10M, and €5M release clause should Milan miss out on Champions League football."
Raiola: "If Gigio goes abroad is it a nuisance for our football? And why is that? Emigrating helps to grow."
Raiola: "Do I earn more [when I sell abroad]? I'm not a romantic, but the more they earn, the more I gain."
Raiola: "However, I'm not the one signing the contracts. The relationships are based on trust."
Raiola: "The commission of €8M for Ely? I do not think it is true. I have good relations with executives."
Raiola: "If there rapport is closed? I do not make war. They [Milan] have asked me about Matuidi, just like Juve and Inter. Let's see."
Raiola: "Ibra? Milan have not asked about him, but with Galliani he would be here."
Raiola: "Montella? He has a good relationship with Gigio, it would've been better if they spoke in private."
Raiola: "But with the change of ownership he [Montella] had to adapt."
Raiola: "How does it end with Gigio? The ball is in Milan's court. If they call me, its my duty to listen."
Raiola: "But there are no assumptions to continue. The no remains no."

Odgovori Fassoneja:
Fassone: "We are saddened by these extremes that calcio generates. We are bitter from this decision, whether it's from the player or agent."
Fassone: "As a club, I don't know what more we could have done to satisfy Gigio and his family to stay at Milan."
Fassone: "If by chance he rethinks the decision, he would be welcomed with open arms from Milan, and I think from the fans as well."
Fassone: "No threats. Our stance was clear: for Milan, Donnarumma is unsellable, so he will stay at Milan next season."
Fassone: "Montella will decide week after week, but for me he can play every game next year. However, we cannot risk anything."
Fassone: "We must look for a goalkeeper by force, as we can't hold a player with an expiring contract, maybe thinking about R. Madrid."
Fassone: "Its a delicate situation and we must have a goalkeeper ready, calm and in good physical condition to play."
Fassone: "No one has ever questioned the legitimacy of decision making. It's perfectly normal."
Fassone: "However, one thing is its legitimacy and the other is business ethics. Bitterness comes for the way this was handled."
Fassone: "It could have been done without damaging the club, leaving like this made a damage of 100 million to Milan."
Fassone: "If Donnarumma is worth this much at 18 years old, he owes it to the club as well, to the investments made, those who trusted him."
Fassone: "It was enough to say he didn't want to stay at Milan, and we could have renewed with a reasonable release clause."
Fassone: "Therefore, if a big club would have came asking for him, even this summer, they would have paid this specific number to buy him."
Fassone: "So whatever Real Madrid isn't paying me will enter the pockets of the agent. I would have invested it in italian football."
Fassone: "Gigio never showed will to leave Milan, never. He always repeated that he wanted to stay. Up until two days before the meeting."
Fassone: "There are no Mirabelli and Fassone, there is one single group; Milan."
Fassone: "Every move, ever proposal, every phone call is agreed, that no one will try to squander between us."
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Re: Mercato 2017

OdgovorNapisal/-a marko_vip dne 19. jun 2017 14:57

Splošno gledano glede Perina...več kot dostojna zamenjava za Donarummo in mislim da ima večji plus za nizke žoge
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Re: Mercato 2017

OdgovorNapisal/-a taura dne 19. jun 2017 15:49

Ravnokar je tud Curva Sud dala svojo izjavo glede na včerajšnji bullshit Raiole..in sicer sprašujejo ga kako "smo" lahko Donnarummi grozili če smo mu ponujali 5m€ plače, kapetanski trak, zacementirano mesto v prvi enajsterici in celo navijaške pesmi posvečene samo Gigiu. In da je s tem početjem kar se je dogajalo v zadnjih dneh uničil podobo Donnarummi ne samo v očeh Milanistov ampak v očeh vseh ljubiteljev nogometa. In sprašujejo ga zakaj ne komentira oz. pove kaj se je zgodilo v zadnjih parih dneh ki so bili ključni pri zavrnitvi pogodbe, Za primer dodajajo Hamšika, ki je bil en izmed klientov Raiole, želel ga je spravit v Milan, Marek tega ni želel zato je menjal agenta in zdej je več kot očitno ljubljenec Napolijevih navijačev..

Milan’s ultras have slammed Mino Raiola and Gigio Donnaumma in a statement - “a lad of only 18 preferring money to being treated as a God by his fans”.
It was announced last week that the goalkeeper wouldn’t renew his contract with the Rossoneri, with his current deal expiring next summer.
That has sparked a war of words, with his agent Mino Raiola claiming his player was threatened and Diavolo CEO Marco Fassone insisting they “did nothing wrong”.
“After [Italian President Sergio] Mattarella on December 31, it’s time for the unified speech by Mino Raiola on all the sports channels,” a statement from Curva Sud Milano begins, referencing the traditional end of year address by the Italian President.
“Obviously with HIS journalists, with previously agreed questions and all pre-recorded, because it should never be a real debate with real questions.
“It seems strange to see Raiola, who has always shunned the Press, opening his doors and trying to save the impossible.
“It seems strange to hear words like ‘hostile climate’, ‘forcing’, and ‘threats’ that translate financially to €25m in five years, the captain’s armband and six months of reflections to get to June and say they feel hurried.
“It’s seems strange to hear about a hostile climate for a lad who is the first Milan player in many years to have his own song from the fans and so much love from every single Milan fan.
“It seems strange to learn from Raiola that there was no discussion of wages or the length of the contract. Maybe because in the famous game of ‘the compensation that would be paid to Milan will go to me’, some elementary things have no value.
“It seems strange that Raiola, with his polished Italian and infinite culture, did not comprehend the simple meaning of a banner to which he referred!
“It seems strange that such a great agent was unable to represent the interests of his client.
“Instead he destroyed his image not only in the eyes of Milan fans, but of all football fans, who now find that an 18-year-old can be irreconcilable with the club which launched him in the sole interest of a man behind him, promising mountains of money.
“It seems strange that, just a few days after the farewell of Francesco Totti, in tears in front of his fans, a lad of 18 would prefer money to being treated as a God by his fans.
“For a sportsman, the gratitude of the fans has no financial value, and we invite Donnarumma to reflect upon what he has denied himself for the rest of his career.
“It doesn’t seem strange to us that Raiola didn’t explain how everything changed so fast.
“It doesn’t seem strange to us that a club symbol who really wanted to be one [Marek Hamsik] moved away from this character, becoming captain of the club [Napoli] he chose to love.
“It doesn’t seem strange even to try and cast old condors [Adriano Galliani] in a good light, who say they want the best for Milan having placed one who could have been a club symbol for the future in the hands of a vulture, so now he is merely the symbol of easy money.
“The actual reality of football is increasingly far from the passion of the people and closer to Raiola-style characters, figures capable of conditioning whole careers and histories of the most important clubs with one goal: their own self-interest.
“We want to thank those who are working for the good of Milan, and have brought people with Rossoneri values back to the club, people who really meant it when they kissed the badge and deserved it when they received affection.
“We know it must have been difficult for the lad to defend himself from the thousands of criticism and insults he’s received in the past few days, but when you swear love and betray it, that’s all that can happen.
“On social media it’s likely that things have been over the top, and of course we don’t think threats are right, they have nothing to do with our position.
“We believe there may still be a chance to rebuild things, but it’s now linked to the expulsion for his affairs of those who pushed him in a bad direction, ruining his image.
“Players come and go, we and Milan will always be there.”
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Re: Mercato 2017

OdgovorNapisal/-a il pazzo dne 19. jun 2017 18:06

Gigia bi vzel samo, če odslovi raiolo. Škoda je že narejena in navijači ne pozabimo!
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OdgovorNapisal/-a _IKE_ dne 19. jun 2017 19:31

il pazzo je napisal/-a:Gigia bi vzel samo, če odslovi raiolo. Škoda je že narejena in navijači ne pozabimo!



Zgodba je končana, po moje največ kar se lahko zgodi, je da pride do podaljšanja pogodbe nato pa prodaja.

Navijači tega kar se je zgodilo enostavno ne bodo pozabili....
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OdgovorNapisal/-a taura dne 19. jun 2017 21:01

http://www.sportface.it/calciomercato/d ... nui/199993
torej sportface oz. bolj natančno real_andrea9 na twitterju je bil letos precej natančen pri prestopih in je precej kredibilen..ravnokar je objavil članek da naj bi bil Donnarumma že dalj časa zmenjen z Realom za 7m€ letne plače. Milan bi ta znesek izenačil ker smo si želeli Gigia na vsak način zadržati ampak Raiola tega ni dopustil ker ni zaupal Yonghong Liju, mislil je da nebo niti zmožen odplačati "kredita" ki ga je vzel pri Eliott družbi, kaj šele da bi plačeval takšno plačo Gigiu.
na Sportface pa tudi pišejo da ravnokar poteka sestanek z Atalanto kjer naj bi zaključevali prestop Contija, kot kaže naj bi šlo za prestop v vrednosti 20m€+bonusi+Felicioli

Kot kaže je tudi Biglia na poti v Milano, najprej želijo zaključit prestop Contija nato sledi Biglia

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torej zadnje novice se bolj nagibajo k višji ceni Contija..22m€+Paletta+Felicioli (s klavzulo da imamo 50% dobička ob naslednji prodaji)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a taura dne 19. jun 2017 23:15

BREAKING: Donnarumma and Milan may not be finished yet. There could be a meeting with his family tomorrow. [Sky]
Milan have put negotiations for a goalkeeper on hold as there could be a stunning turnaround in the negotiations for Donnarumma. [@DiMarzio]
Raiola's brother will travel to Poland to speak with Donnarumma to know his intentions. All is not over yet. [@DiMarzio]
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OdgovorNapisal/-a il pazzo dne 20. jun 2017 13:39

genoa hoče bertota :bandiera:
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OdgovorNapisal/-a joman dne 20. jun 2017 16:40

Končno so se dogovorili za Contija 25m plus bonusi, podpisal bo 5-letno pogodbo za 2m na leto
blizu pa naj bi bil tudi Biglia 20m+2m bonusa
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